From Mav: (No worries, no spoilers in this post) Well, it’s finally time… we’re in the endgame now… and all that. In a couple hours, Avengers Endgame opens in theaters, and I assume a large number of our listeners are going to go see it (please, NO SPOILERS in the comments of this post). By all accounts this is going to be the largest pop culture event of the year… and well, we’re a pop culture show… and even if we weren’t, as I said during last year’s Infinity War episode, it’s just basically international podcasting law that you devote an episode to the Avengers epic. Every show will have it. Seriously… if we don’t Disney will kill us all.
Of course, we’re not really a “movie review” show, so that’s not what we’re going to be doing. Or not exactly. Last year we talked about the way in which the MCU as a concept sort of reinvented what film is. Cinematic Universes weren’t really a “thing” before… at least not like they are now. Well, this year we want to continue that conversation and think about what it means to “END” one. Or at least sort of.
Again, I haven’t seen the film (yet… as I write this, I’m about 2 hours away). All the coverage of Avengers: Endgame has painted it as “the culmination of the series” and the end of an era of storytelling and… well, yadda yadda yadda. But… it’s not that. That’s not how superhero myths work. That’s not how comic books work. That’s not how movie franchises work. There’s going to be more. We all know that. But people are reacting as though this is the end of… something. And in a way, even without seeing the film yet, I’m pretty sure it is. It’s certainly a definitive mark of… something.
I’ve seen some people speculate that this is where everyone will feel like “ok, I can stop following the Marvel Universe now. This is the perfect place to get off and I can devote my time to something new.” Those people are big fat fucking liars!!! They’re not going to do that. I’ve seen other people speculate that “all the movies have been leading to this, and now it’ll be great because the new movies will be smaller disconnected personal stories that don’t have to worry about tying together” but that appears to be just speculation. I’ve sen no evidence that Feige or the rest of the producers intend for that to happen. And to even suggest it is to imply that you’ve not really paid attention to comic books since 1985. As someone who has devoted their life to this, I can tell you… there’s ALWAYS a next big event. ALWAYS!
But something does feel like it’s ending… you know.. the game (and not just our box office game, which by all accounts Wayne will be taking a ridiculously commanding lead after this weekend).
So what is that thing? What changes about how films work with this installment? What are your thoughts on what this means for this franchise, all other franchises, and film and pop culture in general? I’m curious to people’s thoughts both BEFORE AND AFTER they’ve seen the movie. . Also… did you like the movie? Let us know what you thought… and if there’s any chance whatsoever that anyone will catch up to Wayne in the box office game. And if you’re dying to be on the show and talk about your thoughts, we’ll likely be picking someone from the comments as a guest.
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