{"id":1641,"date":"2021-03-20T21:18:00-04:00","date_gmt":"2021-03-21T01:18:00+00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/goshgollywow.com\/?p=1641"},"modified":"2025-11-25T12:06:19-05:00","modified_gmt":"2025-11-25T17:06:19+00:00","slug":"excalibur-4-still-crazy-after-all-these-years","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/voxpopcast.com\/wp\/2021\/03\/20\/excalibur-4-still-crazy-after-all-these-years\/","title":{"rendered":"Excalibur #4: \u201cStill Crazy After All These Years\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<h4>Excalibur #4<\/h4>\n<h1>\u201cStill Crazy After All These Years\u201d<\/h1>\n<p>Writer: Chris Claremont<\/p>\n<p>Pencils\/Plotting: Alan Davis<\/p>\n<p>Inker: Paul Neary<\/p>\n<p>Colourist: Glynis Oliver<\/p>\n<p>Letterer: Tom Orzechowski<\/p>\n<p>Editor: Terry Kavanagh<\/p>\n<p>Publication Date: January 1989\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Excalibur #4: &quot;Still Crazy After All These Years&quot;\" allowtransparency=\"true\" height=\"150\" width=\"100%\" style=\"border: none; min-width: min(100%, 430px);\" scrolling=\"no\" data-name=\"pb-iframe-player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.podbean.com\/player-v2\/?i=rvme3-fe4712-pb&#038;from=pb6admin&#038;share=1&#038;download=1&#038;rtl=0&#038;fonts=Arial&#038;skin=1&#038;font-color=auto&#038;logo_link=episode_page&#038;btn-skin=7\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>In this episode, Anna, Mav, Andrew, and our special guest, romance comics expert Sydney Heifler (<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/romancecomicbks\">@romancecomicbks<\/a>), discuss\u00a0<em>Excalibur\u00a0<\/em>#4, &#8220;Still Crazy After All These Years.&#8221; We barely talk about Murderworld, but do talk super-smooches, super-styles, super-symbolism, super-shapeshifting (that\u2019s definitely not Freudian at all), and why it\u2019s super important not to tickle people without consent (looking at you, Kurt).<\/p>\n<p>This episode has an enhanced video version! 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