{"id":737,"date":"2022-03-26T18:21:58-04:00","date_gmt":"2022-03-26T22:21:58+00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/goshgollywow.com\/?p=737"},"modified":"2025-11-25T12:05:06-05:00","modified_gmt":"2025-11-25T17:05:06+00:00","slug":"excalibur-52-all-you-ever-wanted-to-know-about-phoenix-but-were-afraid-to-ask","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/voxpopcast.com\/wp\/2022\/03\/26\/excalibur-52-all-you-ever-wanted-to-know-about-phoenix-but-were-afraid-to-ask\/","title":{"rendered":"Excalibur #52: \u201cAll You Ever Wanted to Know About Phoenix\u2026 But Were Afraid to Ask\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<h4>Excalibur #52<\/h4>\n<h1>\u201cAll You Ever Wanted to Know About Phoenix\u2026 But Were Afraid to Ask\u201d<\/h1>\n<p>Writer: Alan Davis<\/p>\n<p>Pencils: Will Simpson<\/p>\n<p>Colours: Kelly Covese<\/p>\n<p>Inks: Jimmy Palmiotti and Dave Hoover<\/p>\n<p>Editor: Terry Kavanagh<\/p>\n<p>Original publication date: July 1992<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Excalibur #52: \u201cAll You Ever Wanted to Know About Phoenix\u2026 But Were Afraid to Ask\u201d\" allowtransparency=\"true\" height=\"150\" width=\"100%\" style=\"border: none; min-width: min(100%, 430px);\" scrolling=\"no\" data-name=\"pb-iframe-player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.podbean.com\/player-v2\/?i=ficrj-11e13c7-pb&#038;from=pb6admin&#038;share=1&#038;download=1&#038;rtl=0&#038;fonts=Arial&#038;skin=1&#038;font-color=&#038;logo_link=episode_page&#038;btn-skin=7\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>And we\u2019re back! With a special episode of \u201cRetconning with Reck,\u201d in which writer\/artist\/podcaster <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/arthurstacy\">Adam Reck<\/a> of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/m\/ComicsXF\">Battle of the Atom Podcast<\/a> joins us to untangle <em>Excalibur<\/em> #52, \u201cAll You Ever Wanted to Know About Phoenix\u2026 But Were Afraid to Ask,\u201d which left wondering if some questions are better left unanswered. But we\u2019re gonna ask anyway, delving deep into our mighty collective knowledge of X-Men lore to get to the bottom of whether this story makes any sense\u2014and whether it matters. Plus, we reveal Rachel\u2019s shocking <strong><em>true mutant power<\/em><\/strong><em>,<\/em> clown on Professor X\u2019s taste in poetry, and spotlight a love connection in the Sword Strokes letter page. \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<span>\u201cI don\u2019t think Marvel knew what to do with <em>Excalibur<\/em> in the middle of the \u2018Mutant Genesis\u2019 rebrand of 1991. They had a big launch, and Alan Davis was back, but to me, it was the red-headed stepchild of the X-Men franchise.\u201d -Adam<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u201cAt this point in X-Men history, there weren\u2019t a lot of easy ways to go back and read the old comics. I have vivid memories of Classic X-Men, specifically the one reprinting <em>X-Men<\/em> #138, which essentially summarizes X-Men from the beginning of the Silver Age to the end of Dark Phoenix Saga. That issue was like a handbook to me. <em>Excalibur<\/em> #52 feels like it wants to be that. Except is doesn\u2019t make any sense.\u201d -Adam<\/p>\n<p>\u201cRetcons of origin stories usually happen to create more storytelling opportunities. You add something to a character\u2019s history to set up new conflicts, new possibilities. But with this latest retcon of Rachel\u2019s backstory\u2014what is it adding other than to make her history more confusing and rob her of agency?\u201d -Anna \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThis issue feels like a kid who thinks they\u2019re building with Legos but is actually just stacking blocks next to each other. How did the Phoenix get with Jean? Oh Jean was floating around. How did it get with Rachel? Oh Rachel was just floating around.\u201d -Adam<\/p>\n<p>\u201cFor me, Phoenix works better as an enigmatic character. When you try to completely fill in the backstory, you take away some of that cosmic awe and wonder. And when you have the Phoenix directly narrate their story, that diminishes it further. It humanizes Phoenix in a way that I don\u2019t think its supposed to be humanized.\u201d -Andrew<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSome of the stories Davis wrote leading up to this made me feel closer to Rachel than I\u2019d ever felt before. And the coldness of this ending after that buildup was a tough pill to swallow. Even knowing Rachel will be back\u2014it was hard to re-read.\u201d -Anna<\/p>\n<p>You can find him on Twitter (<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/arthurstacy\">@arthurstacy<\/a>) and ranking all the X-Men stories that are fit to rank with Zachary Jenkins and a bevy of big-name guests over at the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/m\/ComicsXF\">Battle of the Atom Podcast<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Adam also makes awesome art and comics! You can often find him contributing lewks to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.comicsxf.com\/2021\/07\/05\/redesigning-jubilee\/\">ComicsXF&#8217;s redesign series<\/a>, featuring new costumes for old favs! Adam also does commissions; hit him up on Twitter to learn more!<\/p>\n<p><strong>And as usual:\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>You can find Anna on Twitter (<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/peppard_anna\">@peppard_anna<\/a>) and on her podcast with Andrew and Michael Hancock,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/threepanelcontrast.podbean.com\/\">Three Panel Contrast<\/a>\u00a0(<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/3PanelContrast\">@3PanelContrast<\/a>).\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>You can find Andrew on Twitter (<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ClaremontRun\">@ClaremontRun<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>You can find Mav on Twitter (<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chrismaverick\">@chrismaverick<\/a>) and on his podcast,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/voxpopcast.com\/wp\/\">VoxPopcast<\/a>\u00a0(<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/VoxPopcast\">@VoxPopcast<\/a>).\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Enjoy!<\/p>\n<p>-GGW Team\u00a0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Excalibur #52 \u201cAll You Ever Wanted to Know About Phoenix\u2026 But Were Afraid to Ask\u201d Writer: Alan Davis Pencils: Will Simpson Colours: Kelly Covese Inks: Jimmy Palmiotti and Dave Hoover Editor: Terry Kavanagh Original publication date: July 1992 And we\u2019re back! 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