Excalibur #11
“The Price”
Writer: Chris Claremont
Pencils: Marshall Rogers
Inks: Terry Austin
Colours: Glynis Oliver
Letters: Todd Klein
Editor: Terry Kavanagh
Original publication date: August 1989
[/et_pb_text][et_pb_code _builder_version=”4.14.7″ _module_preset=”default” hover_enabled=”0″ global_colors_info=”{}” theme_builder_area=”post_content” sticky_enabled=”0″] [/et_pb_code][et_pb_button button_url=”https://www.marvel.com/comics/issue/8574/excalibur_1988_11″ url_new_window=”on” button_text=”marvel unlimited link” _builder_version=”4.14.7″ custom_button=”on” button_text_size=”14px” button_text_color=”#FFFFFF” button_bg_color=”#ef00db” button_border_width=”8px” button_border_color=”RGBA(255,255,255,0)” button_letter_spacing=”2px” button_font=”Nunito|700||on|||||” button_use_icon=”off” custom_margin=”30px|||” animation_style=”slide” animation_direction=”right” animation_intensity_slide=”5%” animation_starting_opacity=”100%” hover_enabled=”0″ box_shadow_style=”preset2″ box_shadow_horizontal=”0px” box_shadow_vertical=”25px” box_shadow_blur=”45px” box_shadow_color=”rgba(148,166,191,0.25)” global_colors_info=”{}” button_text_size__hover_enabled=”off” button_one_text_size__hover_enabled=”off” button_two_text_size__hover_enabled=”off” button_text_color__hover_enabled=”off” button_one_text_color__hover_enabled=”off” button_two_text_color__hover_enabled=”off” button_border_width__hover_enabled=”off” button_one_border_width__hover_enabled=”off” button_two_border_width__hover_enabled=”off” button_border_color__hover_enabled=”off” button_one_border_color__hover_enabled=”off” button_two_border_color__hover_enabled=”off” button_border_radius__hover_enabled=”off” button_one_border_radius__hover_enabled=”off” button_two_border_radius__hover_enabled=”off” button_letter_spacing__hover_enabled=”off” button_one_letter_spacing__hover_enabled=”off” button_two_letter_spacing__hover_enabled=”off” button_bg_color__hover_enabled=”off” button_one_bg_color__hover_enabled=”off” button_two_bg_color__hover_enabled=”off” theme_builder_area=”post_content” sticky_enabled=”0″][/et_pb_button][/et_pb_column][/et_pb_row][/et_pb_section][et_pb_section fb_built=”1″ admin_label=”My Books Section” _builder_version=”3.22″ custom_margin=”23px|||||” custom_padding=”100px||100px|” global_colors_info=”{}” theme_builder_area=”post_content”][et_pb_row _builder_version=”3.25″ custom_margin=”-78px|auto||auto||” custom_padding=”||0px|||” global_colors_info=”{}” theme_builder_area=”post_content”][et_pb_column type=”4_4″ _builder_version=”3.25″ custom_padding=”|||” global_colors_info=”{}” custom_padding__hover=”|||” theme_builder_area=”post_content”][et_pb_text _builder_version=”4.14.7″ _module_preset=”default” custom_padding=”||7px|||” hover_enabled=”0″ global_colors_info=”{}” theme_builder_area=”post_content” sticky_enabled=”0″]This episode, talking Excalibur #11: “The Price,” is a pod-friends reunion as Anna, Mav, and Andrew are joined by Dr. Michael Hancock, the self-proclaimed “Beta Ray Bill of comics and games research” and co-host of Three Panel Contrast (aka Andrew & Anna’s other/OG podcast!). There’s less Nazis but more (friendly!) griping about another Alan Davis-less issue that focuses on a love triangle (most of us) hate and spends entirely too much time trying to make Nigel Frobisher happen. Also, Anna’s got *lots* of thoughts about a scene where Kurt experiences a world-tilting revelation that ultimately reveals nothing but a bushel of wrong ideas about what makes him tick.
[/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=”4.14.7″ _module_preset=”default” global_colors_info=”{}” theme_builder_area=”post_content”]This episode has an enhanced video version! Watch here:
[/et_pb_text][et_pb_video src="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzN6kWEPmGQ&list=PLAu_opnK2VxtQMOfDFgKQvxpRxwZToYIO&index=12" _builder_version="4.14.7" _module_preset="default" hover_enabled="0" global_colors_info="{}" theme_builder_area="post_content" sticky_enabled="0"][/et_pb_video][/et_pb_column][/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version="4.14.5" _module_preset="default" custom_margin="26px|auto||auto||" global_colors_info="{}" theme_builder_area="post_content"][et_pb_column type="4_4" _builder_version="4.14.5" _module_preset="default" global_colors_info="{}" theme_builder_area="post_content"][et_pb_blurb title="On misguided mythology:" image="https://voxpopcast.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/11_soulsword.jpg" _builder_version="4.14.7" _module_preset="default" hover_enabled="0" global_colors_info="{}" theme_builder_area="post_content" title_text="#11_soulsword" sticky_enabled="0"]“When Illyana’s Soulsword arrives at the Lighthouse, it arrives in a stone, like the sword itself understands branding. I love Illyana, and hate this. When people mess with her mythology, I’m sad.” -Andrew
[/et_pb_blurb][/et_pb_column][/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version="4.14.5" _module_preset="default" global_colors_info="{}" theme_builder_area="post_content"][et_pb_column type="4_4" _builder_version="4.14.5" _module_preset="default" global_colors_info="{}" theme_builder_area="post_content"][et_pb_blurb title="On the newest love triangle:" image="https://voxpopcast.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/11_kitty-alistaire-rachel.jpg" _builder_version="4.14.7" _module_preset="default" hover_enabled="0" global_colors_info="{}" theme_builder_area="post_content" title_text="11_kitty alistaire rachel" sticky_enabled="0"]“As creepy as Kitty/Colossus was, the story was better. I don’t need Alistaire to believe Kitty’s jealous of Rachel. And Alistaire’s not Kitty’s type.” -Mav
[/et_pb_blurb][/et_pb_column][/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version="4.14.5" _module_preset="default" custom_margin="-16px|auto||auto||" global_colors_info="{}" theme_builder_area="post_content"][et_pb_column type="4_4" _builder_version="4.14.5" _module_preset="default" global_colors_info="{}" theme_builder_area="post_content"][et_pb_blurb title="On Rachel’s character development:" image="https://voxpopcast.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/11_rachel-development.jpg" _builder_version="4.14.7" _module_preset="default" custom_padding="0px|||||" hover_enabled="0" global_colors_info="{}" theme_builder_area="post_content" title_text="#11_rachel development" sticky_enabled="0"]“Rachel’s coolness feeds into the gap in her character. That she comes back a changed character. That she’s not the pensive character she was before. This is someone who’s confident and calm to an almost sociopathic degree.” -Andrew
[/et_pb_blurb][/et_pb_column][/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version="4.14.5" _module_preset="default" global_colors_info="{}" theme_builder_area="post_content"][et_pb_column type="4_4" _builder_version="4.14.5" _module_preset="default" global_colors_info="{}" theme_builder_area="post_content"][et_pb_blurb title="On Claremont’s kinks:" image="https://voxpopcast.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/11_Kitty-naked.jpg" _builder_version="4.14.7" _module_preset="default" hover_enabled="0" global_colors_info="{}" theme_builder_area="post_content" title_text="11_Kitty naked" sticky_enabled="0"]“Erotic exhibitionist fantasy is a fantasy where your clothes come off, and you have to be exposed. It’s a kink, but also relates to the possibility of alternate gazes.” -Andrew
[/et_pb_blurb][/et_pb_column][/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version="4.14.5" _module_preset="default" global_colors_info="{}" theme_builder_area="post_content"][et_pb_column type="4_4" _builder_version="4.14.5" _module_preset="default" global_colors_info="{}" theme_builder_area="post_content"][et_pb_blurb title="On *that* scene with Nazi Kurt and Alysande:" image="https://voxpopcast.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/11_Kurt-rape-aftermath.jpg" _builder_version="4.14.7" _module_preset="default" hover_enabled="0" global_colors_info="{}" theme_builder_area="post_content" title_text="11_Kurt rape aftermath" sticky_enabled="0"]“I’m here for critiquing Kurt’s problematic flirting. But this isn’t that. If Kurt manipulated Meggan, it was into consent, out of a desperate desire to be liked. Going straight to rape simplifies and misunderstands him.” -Anna
[/et_pb_blurb][et_pb_blurb title="More gripes:" image="https://voxpopcast.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/11_Kurt-rape.jpg" _builder_version="4.14.7" _module_preset="default" hover_enabled="0" global_colors_info="{}" theme_builder_area="post_content" title_text="11_Kurt rape" sticky_enabled="0"]“The other thing I hate about this scene is we have a female character threatened with sexual assault for the emotional growth of Kurt. And then he learns nothing. I hate it so much” -Anna
[/et_pb_blurb][/et_pb_column][/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version="4.14.5" _module_preset="default" global_colors_info="{}" theme_builder_area="post_content"][et_pb_column type="4_4" _builder_version="4.14.5" _module_preset="default" global_colors_info="{}" theme_builder_area="post_content"][et_pb_blurb title="On the mysterious appeal of Nigel Frobisher:" image="https://voxpopcast.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/11_nigel.jpg" _builder_version="4.14.7" _module_preset="default" hover_enabled="0" global_colors_info="{}" theme_builder_area="post_content" title_text="#11_nigel" sticky_enabled="0"]“I read Nigel as Renfield to Sat-Yr-9’s Dracula, putting him on the path to villainy. Or it’s setting him up for a hero turn. Apparently, neither are true.” -Michael
[/et_pb_blurb][et_pb_blurb title="Next! The Cross-Time Caper begins…" image="https://voxpopcast.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/11_conclusion.jpg" _builder_version="4.14.7" _module_preset="default" hover_enabled="0" global_colors_info="{}" theme_builder_area="post_content" title_text="#11_conclusion" sticky_enabled="0"][/et_pb_blurb][/et_pb_column][/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version="4.14.5" _module_preset="default" custom_margin="20px|auto||auto||" global_colors_info="{}" theme_builder_area="post_content"][et_pb_column type="4_4" _builder_version="4.14.5" _module_preset="default" global_colors_info="{}" theme_builder_area="post_content"][et_pb_team_member name="Want more?" image_url="https://voxpopcast.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/11_3pc.jpg" _builder_version="4.14.7" _module_preset="default" link_option_url="https://threepanelcontrast.podbean.com/" link_option_url_new_window="on" hover_enabled="0" global_colors_info="{}" theme_builder_area="post_content" title_text="#11_3pc" sticky_enabled="0"]You can find Michael Hancock on Twitter (@Person of Con) and through the podcast he co-hosts with Andrew and Anna, Three Panel Contrast! (@3PanelContrast on the bird app.)
Every 3PC episode is sparklingly perfect in every way, but here’s for some recs for Michael-hosted eps we mentioned on the pod.
Ep 17 – Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck and Howard the Duck (on ducks!)
Ep 23 – Diceman & You Are Deadpool (on gamebook comics!)
Ep 20 – Flinststones & Transformers vs GI Joe (on self-reflexive remakes!)
Ep 9 – Relish & Delicious in Dungeon (on food-based comics!)
Plus!
You can find Anna’s Claremont Run thread about Kurt’s problematic flirting in Excalibur #4 here.
[/et_pb_team_member][/et_pb_column][/et_pb_row][/et_pb_section][et_pb_section fb_built=”1″ _builder_version=”4.14.5″ _module_preset=”default” custom_margin=”-107px|||||” custom_padding=”80px|||||” global_colors_info=”{}” theme_builder_area=”post_content”][et_pb_row _builder_version=”4.14.5″ _module_preset=”default” global_colors_info=”{}” theme_builder_area=”post_content”][et_pb_column type=”4_4″ _builder_version=”4.14.5″ _module_preset=”default” global_colors_info=”{}” theme_builder_area=”post_content”][et_pb_text _builder_version=”4.14.5″ _module_preset=”default” custom_margin=”-63px|||||” global_colors_info=”{}” theme_builder_area=”post_content”]And as usual:
You can find Anna on Twitter (@peppard_anna) and on her podcast with Andrew and Michael Hancock, Three Panel Contrast (@3PanelContrast).
You can find Andrew on Twitter (@ClaremontRun).
You can find Mav on Twitter (@chrismaverick) and on his podcast, VoxPopcast (@VoxPopcast).
Enjoy!
-GGW Team
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